{"id":665,"date":"2009-12-14T14:18:11","date_gmt":"2009-12-14T12:18:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/oeb.global\/OEB_Newsportal\/?p=665"},"modified":"2011-08-09T14:30:35","modified_gmt":"2011-08-09T12:30:35","slug":"good-fuel-for-a-hot-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/oeb.global\/oeb-insights\/good-fuel-for-a-hot-debate\/","title":{"rendered":"Good Fuel for a Hot Debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/oeb.global\/oeb-insights\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/daily_mail.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-666\" title=\"OEB Debate 2009\" src=\"https:\/\/oeb.global\/oeb-insights\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/daily_mail.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"120\" height=\"89\" srcset=\"https:\/\/oeb.global\/oeb-insights\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/daily_mail.jpg 120w, https:\/\/oeb.global\/oeb-insights\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/daily_mail-74x55.jpg 74w, https:\/\/oeb.global\/oeb-insights\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/daily_mail-75x55.jpg 75w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 120px) 100vw, 120px\" \/><\/a>What a spectacle! The ONLINE EDUCA Debate was the setting for a clash between two intransigent and unapologetic opponents when the biologist-cum-psychologist, Dr Aric Sigman, went head to head with the unswerving champion of e-learning, Donald Clark, who was as entertaining as ever. The two were both \u201cup for it\u201d, well-researched, combative and determined to land a punch. Sigman\u2019s negative view of the \u201canti-social web\u201d was seconded by controversial right-wing British newspaper columnist, Bruce Anderson, whereas the Silicon Valley consultant and advocate of technology, Jerry Michalski, deftly supported Clark\u2019s position. A post-debate vote was as close as a vote can get \u2013 another compliment to the main protagonists, who stoked up emotions, polarised opinion and did not give an inch.<\/strong><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>No one anticipating a \u2018dust-up\u2019 between Aric Sigman and Donald Clark left the hall disappointed on Thursday. The moderator, former British parliamentarian Harold Elletson, had hardly opened the debate when the energetic exchange left the launch pad. The first quarter of an hour belonged to Sigman. His contention was that there is a<a href=\"https:\/\/oeb.global\/oeb-insights\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/12_c_oeb1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-667\" title=\"OEB2009 debate\" src=\"https:\/\/oeb.global\/oeb-insights\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/12_c_oeb1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"226\" height=\"152\" srcset=\"https:\/\/oeb.global\/oeb-insights\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/12_c_oeb1.jpg 226w, https:\/\/oeb.global\/oeb-insights\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/12_c_oeb1-81x55.jpg 81w, https:\/\/oeb.global\/oeb-insights\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/12_c_oeb1-180x120.jpg 180w, https:\/\/oeb.global\/oeb-insights\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/12_c_oeb1-75x50.jpg 75w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 226px) 100vw, 226px\" \/><\/a> correlation between excessive internet usage and lack of face-to-face social contact, which has damaging social consequences. Once let loose on the Internet, children idle their time away for hours in endless chat rooms. Empathy and social skills are not promoted on the computer and Internet; rather they tend to be inhibited. Higher analytical thought processes are lost to these \u2018computer kids\u2019: arguments such as these, substantiated by scientific examples from the University of Stanford and the National Academy of Sciences for instance, provided the substance of his presentation, which he staged with a great sense of drama. However, Sigman\u2019s main concern was about the amount of time children spend on the internet and playing computer games. Up to this point, he had presented his case very well, but the revelation that he admires some aspects of conservative, totalitarian forms of education \u2013 he cited the example of North Korea \u2013 went down like a lead balloon.<\/p>\n<p>Donald Clark, who went into the ring next, seized on this example and took the high ground, ripping into his opponent with relish. Education in North Korea! Anyone finding merit in this type of system could hardly be taken seriously and Sigman\u2019s claim that \u201cthe increasing use of technology and social software is damaging students&#8217; minds and undermining the benefits of traditional methods of learning\u201d was nonsense. He declared the diametric opposite to be the case, and his two sons, amusingly presented as iPod and laptop freaks on a chart, provided the best example of how media use actually aids in making young people more intelligent. Continuing along these lines, Clark cited numerous studies and references to published works, for example a report by the US Department of Education, which showed that blended learning, in particular, produced excellent results. Clark also had much praise for the established social-networking learning tools such as MIT OpenCourseware, YouTube Edu, etc. However, the well-prepared speaker put the majority of his effort into taking swipes at Sigman. Where did his works make any specific mention of social networking? Weren\u2019t the people examined much too old? And wouldn\u2019t the results of studies into younger people disprove those obtained from research on older people?<\/p>\n<p>Sigman, who was under a fierce and sustained attack, was indignant and counter-attacked with gusto. What riled him most of all was the fact that Clark had accused him of being unscientific and even of deliberate deceit. The debate became calmer, but no less spirited, when Bruce Anderson appeared on the scene, followed by Jerry Michalski. Anderson, in a very conservative manner, defended traditional cultural virtues such as reading and a deeper historical awareness, which are, in his opinion, under threat from the internet. Jerry Michalski, who outlined the benefits of social networking, gave the undecided in the audience food for thought. The \u201dguide to the relationship economy\u201d, as he calls himself, spoke about the democratising power of the internet. Parents should help their children to grow into the internet era, which he described as the developmental phase of a \u201cglobal brain\u201d. This was a good conclusion and a suitable lead-in to the subsequent public debate, which was followed by a vote.<a href=\"https:\/\/oeb.global\/oeb-insights\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/12_c_oeb2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-668\" title=\"OEB2009 debate crowd\" src=\"https:\/\/oeb.global\/oeb-insights\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/12_c_oeb2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"226\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/oeb.global\/oeb-insights\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/12_c_oeb2.jpg 226w, https:\/\/oeb.global\/oeb-insights\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/12_c_oeb2-82x55.jpg 82w, https:\/\/oeb.global\/oeb-insights\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/12_c_oeb2-180x120.jpg 180w, https:\/\/oeb.global\/oeb-insights\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/12_c_oeb2-145x95.jpg 145w, https:\/\/oeb.global\/oeb-insights\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/12_c_oeb2-75x50.jpg 75w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 226px) 100vw, 226px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The audience, obviously entertained by the exchange, voiced their opinions with enthusiasm, and stressed, among other things, that parents have a major role to play in the media-education process. At the end of the debate, they were called upon to state their position with a show of hands. The result was slightly more votes for Donald Clark\u2019s team. However, Aric Sigman certainly managed a respectable result.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TIP<\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com\/2009\/12\/facebook-causes-cancer-big-debate.html\">In his blog<\/a>, Donald Clark again gives a great deal of thought to the debate and is still noticeably enraged by it \u2013 interesting reading for anyone who was not present at the event.<\/p>\n<p>In addition, the live recording of the debate will soon appear on the <a href=\"https:\/\/oeb.global\/audio-video\">OEB website.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What a spectacle! The ONLINE EDUCA Debate was the setting for a clash between two intransigent and unapologetic opponents when the biologist-cum-psychologist, Dr Aric Sigman, went head to head with the unswerving champion of e-learning, Donald Clark, who was as entertaining as ever. 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